Kris I'm sorry this happened to you. You of all people don't deserve to be treated this way.

You have given this village a wonderful way to fully enjoy all the beauty our Village has to offer. You have so many friends that will continue to support you. I know many of the obstacles you have faced since you opened SKAT. You have coped and made it work and so many Villagers are so thankful for all you offer.

Many of us know what is happening. I don't pay my tax dollars to have a Mayor bring a woman to tears(not you). It makes me sad that people are treated so badly by an elected official.

My family looks forward to many future adventures with SKAT. You are first class all the way and everyone knows it. You have our full support.

A Village Resident and Taxpayer

Pat Welch

" We need adults in that Board room, not YouTube. Get off your computers and attend the meetings if you want to see what's going on."

Just for the record Kris. the above paragraph was taken from a post a couple of weeks ago.
your original was deleted from the editor
probably because you threw venomous words at me and also Steve Wilkinson only because we were possibly supportive of Andrew Argino. I am certainly a gasped in how a business owner can speak of their neighbors in such degree that points towards political endorsements.

"aghast", not "a gasped".

The quote above is correct - my intention was to encourage people to attend meetings, rather than depending upon edited clips of them on YouTube. I'm all for taping the meetings - just in an unbiased manner.

"Possibly supportive of Andrew Argenio"? Your two letters were obviously supportive of Andrew and Jan: "I have my pen at the ready, Jan", and "I have my pen at the ready" under Andrew's announcement of running for Trustee. Very original...

As a business owner, am I not also a citizen? I have the right, like anyone else, to express my opinion, Mr. Buescher.

I am curious, can anyone at the meeting verify Kris Seiz's account of the evening? Did anyone else notice that the camera was pointed only her way for a long period of time? Altough Pat Welch is supportive of Ms Seiz in her comment above, its unclear whether she attended the meeting in question. Nor is it clear that J. Buescher attended.

Why would I lie about attending a meeting? I don't even know J. Buescher, so I can't attest to his being present. And the only way to prove my story if for Andrew to simply post the first few minutes of the meeting on YouTube!

I dont doubt whether you attended the meeting- I am curious, as I said, if anyone else at the meeting noticed that the camera was pointed only on you for a long period of time. Simply looking for any additional citizens who can corroberate your account the old-fashioned way.

Kris Seiz
Maybe the editor can repost your original comment that was deleted, angrily and quite hastily criticizing Mr. Wilkinson and Myself for not attending meetings or helping you with the new years celebration or volunteering in general . All I wrote concerning Andrew's run for trustee was that I have a pen at the ready.
We as a family are tired of the bickering and political cronyisms that are still occurring in this village I'm hoping for a couple of new faces that will work and look out for the tax payers and that is my opinion and I don't need mud slung back at me because of my opinions.
A business owner in my opinion shouldn't alienate a population. That is what is so unbelievable

Mr. Buescher: It's America. I deleted a post which I felt was mean-spirited, and that's not me. It's also my right to delete a post. The Editor did it at my request.
And what "population" have I alienated? How many of you are there in this "population"?
Also, I'm speaking as an individual here, so leave my business out of it, please. And let's get back to the business at hand: Mr. Argenio's aiming the camera at me and not the people who were involved in the discussion. Let's quit with the diversionary tactics - I'd like to see the video. NOW.

I hardly think Kris is alienting a population. She, although a business owner is a resident and taxpayer of the Village and is entitled to voice her opinion just as anyone else is. Kris has spoken her point of view on many occasions and has always been truthful, accurate, and unbiased.
I too am still waiting to view the youtube posting from Andrew Argenio. Why is it when Andrew believes there is something of interest (usually his own perception) the video feed is up an running within hours? But no sign of this video yet... What gives? Come on Andrew, step up to the plate and show exactly what you video taped in its entirety.

Kris ... were you sitting all alone, or was there anyone next to you, behind you, or in front of you that could have been taped? Was Andrew pointing the camera at your head=/face or another part of you anatomy??? Are you sure of what part of your anatomy he was pointing at, because if it was not your head then i REALLY think you have been violated to the max ...

Here is the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q09FDluskr8
sorry I was busy
Typical, Muckraking and smear tactics. That is the thanks I get for VOLENTEERING my time.

Interesting. The camera doesn't lie, to, uh, coin a phrase.

Thank you, Andrew.

Thank you Andrew keep up the great work!!!

Kris I noticed that you left after you got what you wanted for youre business at the work session

Yes, the camera doesn't lie. At 1:12 the camera is CENTERED DIRECTLY on me and remains that way until 1:56. At 1:48 is when I became so uncomfortable and began to stare at Andrew so as to get him to refocus on the meeting.
And yes, Andrew - Bill Garrison and I left after our business was concluded. That is what most people do - they address the Board for business at hand. Most do not remain for the entire meeting. I am not in public office. I had no reason to remain at the meeting. And now I am done with this - the video speaks for itself.

so 36 seconds and you feel atacked? Why are you so thankfull to me in person and so catty online ?

oops attacked

Andrew, she is not worth your time. The camera was directed at Bill as he was speaking during the time that Kris says she was offended. It just so happened your lens captured others in the room. What a shame.

Kris, follow me through here...

1: The camera wasn't "pointed at you," it was pointed at you and the guy from MVG, framing you both, because that's where Argenio assumed the action would be coming from, after the mayor's statement that your and MVG's interest in the busing question was one of the things the meeting would cover. He then proceeded to film the guy from MVG speaking.

2: When Argenio saw pretty quickly (after all of 45 seconds) that discussion among the board was more important, he panned away from you and the gent.

3: If you feel you were giving Argenio the evil eye and that's what embarrassed him into panning away, it certainly isn't evident on my large, high-res Mac desktop screen. I doubt he even thought about the fact that you were looking at the camera.

4: If you're complaining about the centering of the camera, I guess we should have Argenio refine his cinematic technique.

Mountain, meet Molehill.

Look at the center of the shot. That would be ME. I felt it trained on ME that whole time. Not once is Bill Garrison in the center.

the whole 45 seconds?
By the way Mike Randall was in the way
One question, is it other people who are suposed to volenteer, while you go, get what you want and leave?

I watched the video a couple times, and the shot in question captures the audience, not one person ...

Kris, from what I am seeing the camera isnt pointed at you at ALL, it is actually pointed just behind you, at that green thing in the corner ...

Kris ... you FELT violated, but from what the video shows you were not in any way shape or form ... you have every right to feel the way you feel, but I find it interesting that this was brought up online before you personally went to Andrew to ask to see the tape ... IF you had asked and IF he had refused I could see writing this letter, but this just seems like putting the cart before the horse ...

AN entire change of guard is needed in COH. I do not know all of you personally, but from a political point of view you are all negligent of poor judgement and behavior. Shame on you.

The difference between a functional family and a dysfunctional family is communication ... If you want to think of this town as a "family" ... even dysfunctional communication is better than no communication ... How does anyone figure out where to start fixing problems if there is no discussion of what the problems are? This isn't a political issue, it is a communication issue between neighbors ...

I don't live in Cornwall, but my family has for over 100 years. I get a kick out of these petty, small town arguments. My main observation reading through this: Are some of you really going to vote for someone as illiterate as Andrew appears to be for trustee? Seriously? Don't you think a trustee should at the very minimum be able to spell on a fifth grade level? At one point he even corrects himself saying "oops attacked" not realizing that he spells thankful incorrectly in the same sentence. Never mind that he can't spell volunteer either. Frankly, I'm embarrassed for him and I think you village residents should expect more from someone that will be making decisions you'll have to live with.

"The answer is quite apparent: Mr. Argenio has made it patently clear that he has chosen this venue as an opportunity to use his camera as a weapon to intimidate and threaten those residents whom he either disagrees with or dislikes."

Kris - I do not know you but at the moment, I am OK with that.

You are very off-base here in my humble opinion. In previouis posts, you assail people for not volunteering their time on various COH projects, yet Andrew is providing a service for those who greatly appreciate it and you go off on a ME ME ME diatribe about intimidation and making wild claims.

45 secs of a camera on anyone doesn't come close to justifying your sharp accusations. Andrew could have just got distracted for a minute and disregarded where the camera was pointed. What are your motives in all of this??????..... please respond to the large group of people who are straching their heads at this moment.

Sean Kelly asked quite pointedly for Andrew to MAN UP and post the tape. Now that we have seen the tape your claims do not pan out. Nor do they even approach intimidation!!!!

Funny to how the tape shows you leaving after you got what you wanted and nothing else. I won't quote you directly but you posted that COH PEOPLE NEED TO GET OFF THEIR BUTTS AND GO TO THE MEETING, NOT WATCH IT ON YOUTUBE. Hypocritical doesn't even begin to describe what showing up for a meeting for self-service and then abandoning the meeting for TV or whatever else you had planned that was more important than hearing the remainder of the agenda.

Kris - To quote you directly:

" I didn't see any of the above people who wrote comments helping me with the Ball Drop, but they both did. And you all sit at home and write nasty comments... DO SOMETHING. ACT. VOLUNTEER. SIGN UP FOR COVAC OR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. We need adults in that Board room, not YouTube. Get off your computers and attend the meetings if you want to see what's going on."

"And yes, Andrew - Bill Garrison and I left after our business was concluded. That is what most people do - they address the Board for business at hand. Most do not remain for the entire meeting. I am not in public office. I had no reason to remain at the meeting."

" And now I am done with this - the video speaks for itself."

The words that you published seem to contradict the person you are representing yourself as. As I said, I do not know you, and I am not trying to slander you..... but I felt I needed to speak up on behalf of the job Andrew is doing with the volunteer recordings of the COH meetings.

For you to say some of you sit at home and write nasty comments, and then post this nasty diatribe about being the sole focus of a meetings worth of video is ponderous at best.

WHOA ... In the time it took me to read Martin Smith's post ... Mr. Smith ... I would consider Andrew ... I DO appreciate the You Tube videos and I watch them ... If you go one generation below the current teens to 20 somethings find it totally acceptable to speak and spell in "textese" ... there are those of us in the generation in between. We are very literate, and capable of writing in professional settings. But on news forums to we have to worry about grammar ... The letter that Kris wrote speaks to something in this town ... feelings. A lot of these petty arguments begin about feelings. We live in a small town, and our politics cross lines of personal interactions. What we see here is small town interaction meeting 21st century technology ... Kris has every right to feel the way she feels, but the video proves that Andrew did not have an intention of hostility. As I said before I think that a lot of the things we see here would be good to discuss offline. If we have to post with our names, can we also provide email addresses, so that we can contact one another? Many of the things we see in our comments are basic typos, a bit harsh to attack that.

I would also consider other candidate for Mayor ... However, please consider this ... Mayor Gross also went walking around town, going from person to person. To see what people thought about the position of Mayor BEFORE he ever ran. I remember speaking to him more than once.

When I spoke with Mayor Gross all those years ago it was while I was on a walk with my dog, and we happened to cross paths. He spoke of consolidation at that time ...

I do not want to consolidate the Village, the police, or give up the two full time positions. But I recognize that the financial responsibility is still there. Mayor Gross might not have made a lot of friends with his attitude towards certain individuals, but what he has said has always been consistent. We need to do something in order to keep this Village solvent ... I respect him for saying the same thing over and over again, even if I disagree with how he does it ...

So now we have a break in government ... and I do not know the other trustees, only Barbara ... so I dont speak to them ... But what I see is a lot of individuals who come to this with very good intentions, and then look at the numbers and say OH ...

There are individual issues that will always arise, but what I support is not demonizing any one individual ... If I call something "stupid" I am not intending to call any individual "stupid" only to put an issue in blatant language ... but sometimes the way we phrase things and the way we do things, are mistaken. this is something that has happened with my past posts ... Perhaps I need to remember to choose my wording differently

Everyone has the right to feel the way they feel, but we need to attempt to separate personal feelings and minor dispute from "political" issues ...

I meant I cant speak about the character of the other people, as I don't know them ... but I feel everyone has good intentions.

And while I am on my pedestal ... I appreciate the You Tube videos because it keeps me up on the meetings ... I know Kris, and Mayor Gross and Barbara from the Village, from living here, I do not need to go to meetings to know them ... we know each other as neighbors on a day to day basis ... this is different than the politics it takes to run the Village ...

Melissa, I find reading what you have to say very difficult to comprehend. Sorry. As far as speaking in "textese" whatever that means, it seems like an excuse for ignorance. Andrew doesn't appear to be 20 or a teenager, so I don't think it applies to him anyway. Also, he continually spells the same words incorrectly. That's not a typo, that's ignorance.

Mr. Smith, I don?t always use spell check due to the copy and paste hassles. Here is a little background on me Mr. Smith I graduated Cornwall High school and went to Syracuse for construction management. At Syracuse they found out through a very deliberative process that I am dyslexic. After Syracuse I ran a blacktop plant and became a state inspector for quality control. I started a recycling business that processed over 100,000 tons a year. I pioneered a method that turns waste glass in the waste stream into useable sand. Since then I have gotten 2 patents. 1 for a recycled road surface that saves 16 barrels of oil per ton produced. Yup I?m not good at spelling. If spelling is the standard for success the horizons would be very narrow. I realize that it is an easy shot to take, criticizing my spelling but maybe you should try and do some heavy lifting and speak of policies.

Spelling and ignorance may have a correlation, but as Andrew has just posted, I doubt it.

Martin, you seem to know how to call someone ignorant without ever meeting them, which to me seems.... ummm.... pretty ignorant.

Not to mention that my generation grew up with a miraculous invention called SPELL CHECK. It is amazing.... and also removed the process of learning how to spell for a large majority. Like the new calculators that graph, perform intricate calculators equations, etc....

Should it excuse poor spelling, no. Does it mean the misspell-er is ignorant... Well, I wouldn't assume that to be the case.

I don't care about policies. I don't care about your little war of words with the woman that wrote this letter. I don't care why you can't spell. I was born there and my family has lived there for a long time, so I get this newsletter to see what's going on. What I know is that I wouldn't vote for someone who can't spell and seems like an extremely petty, juvenile person who enjoys battling with women...I think it's pathetic...

Martin - Thanks clarifying to all what type of person you are. For the record, I won;t be voting in the villiage election either because I live in New Windsor. I also was born and grew up in Cornwall and appreciate the education and community the raised me.

I know you don;t care about my opinion, but I will make it again.... For you to assume that someone is ignorant because they have misspelled a few words consistently, than I suggest that you live an ignorant life.

Calling someone a "little fella" and saying that he fights with women (When he is obviously responding to a post that has his name all over it) is again, ignorant.

Good luck to you in the future. But you don;t need luck, you know everything.

I love it when people post about how stupid the place is ... I thought it was a forum for people who care about what happens here?

I do not feel that I have to be as proficient in my typing and spelling on this forum as I do on professional papers ... And this is true, it is a new trend, called ignorance, in the lower generation ... they do not have card catalogs to do literature searches, they have WikiPedia... they do not exchange written letters of correspondence, they send short emails ... the way in which we communicate is changing ... but the issues remain the same ...

One of the first comments here attacked the Mayor something about bringing Kris to tears ... I did not hear her say that in her letter or on the video ... we tend to skip issues ... not because we are ignorant ... but because a general theme of discussion in this town flows through out these posts, letters and comments ...

I might question why Kris chose this as a venue to publish her feelings about that night. However, this is a discussion forum, and we post under our real names, not under web names as on other forums. We know our neighbors ... I looked online for an email once to answer someone about a comment on a post. I found no email address for that individual. So I chose to let it drop, it did not seem that important.

SO, while I question the choice of this forum for this letter, I do see how it would be a natural thought to use the forum to pose the question. The debate is heated and vehement on both sides. Not because of ignorance, but because of feelings and passion. People have passionate feelings on topics that effect their lives and the fact is that these specific politicians are also our neighbors, friends, and petty enemies. I think most of these enemies are petty, I do not see anyone being "evil" in anything.

The fact is, every individual runs for the positions to make some sort of change, but when they see if from the outside ... once you get to the inside you have to crunch hard numbers. So please, lets remember that these people, wether current, or future representatives, as also neighbors.

Very good post Mellssa.

Melissa, I don't think Cornwall is a stupid place. I just think it's always been about petty nonsensical, who knows who type BS. Which still seems to be the case.

It IS who knows who, because it is that small of a town ... this is why people move back ... I moved away for about 8 years and have been back for about 5 ... Why I came back? The same town that generates the UTTERLY petty stupid stupid stupid is ALSO the same town where your neighbors check on the elderly. Where children are watched by others in the street. Where you move back because the people you know are the same people that have known you all of your life.

And in this town are new comers. Who have opinions, and integrate as part of the town ... It is the same petty Cornwall that is very closed to outsiders, and very open to anyone born just one generation in ... this effects our politics ... these debates have all become very heated and very personal. And yes, I do think certain THINGS are stupid ...

I love that word ... my grandfather died saying that word "stupid stupid stupid" ... Think of it, when all is said and done, it is nonsensical ... However, what counts are the people you can look in the eye and know that they are going to interact with you are neighbors ... That is the difference with Cornwall ...

Whenever the "new" set of politicians gets into power they will face the same line items and budget crisis. What happens then?

I agree with you Melissa, about the draw of Cornwall. It's a beautiful, friendly safe place. Anyone who has called it home is truly lucky.

Martin Smith, if you knew Andrew Argenio, sat down and talked with him (as I did for half an hour or so the other day), you'd know he's a perfectly intelligent person who is absolutely open about his dyslexia. He is not at all illiterate. I will happily vote for him because I know incorrect spelling as a result of dyslexia is not a sign of ignorance, any more than stuttering is. And I'm a nonfiction writer who has never in his life used SpellCheck, so I do value proper use of English by people who should be able to do so without the burden of a handicap.

By the way, the last sentence of your original post should read "...someone WHO will be making decisions..." not THAT.

B- and see me after class.

Martin,

>>>Are some of you really going to vote for someone as illiterate as Andrew appears to be for trustee? Seriously? Don't you think a trustee should at the very minimum be able to spell on a fifth grade level? <<<

Are you kidding us? You should do a little research on dyslexia. You will discover many famous people have suffered from dyslexia and made the world a better place. Byron Janis the great Pianist didn't let his arthritis stop him from performing the world over though in excruciating pain. Thomas Edison, who suffered from dyslexia again didn't let his handicap set him back. As I told Andrew on this board once before I have a very good friend who has dyslexia and has made a fine career for himself and is of high intellect.

Martin, I'd vote for Andrew before an ignorant hater. At least you have no vote here in COH. I can accept divergence of opinion but ignorance and hatred due to a medical condition is one line I draw.

BTW, why post here if you don't live here? Yes I know you love it though you moved.

Resident & Taxpayer
Pat Welch

Well Pat, I was born in Cornwall but moved as a child when my parents were divorced. My fathers family has lived there since the late 1800's. That's why I receive this newsletter in my email. I don't know that I've ever posted anything here before and did so this time because I think it's pathetic for a grown man to act like a juvenile and get into petty arguments with women. I also watched some of Andrews you tube videos, he speaks in at least one of them and seems anything but articulate. Again, he seems juvenile.
Stephan, you'll have to find someone else to see after class, I don't swing that way champ...

That's cute, Martin--an attempt at a homophobic insult. I would expect no less.

Oh, and you need to work on your apostrophe use, since you claim to be so literate.

Thanks Stephanie, but all the flattery in the world won't make me see you after class.
Maybe my poor apostrophe use will get me elected Mayor someday. :>)

Dear Editor,
If this were a vaudeville show, it would be time to use "the hook"...if this were Monty Python's Flying Circus, then the 16 ton weight would be dropped on at least one of the players. Alas, it is neither. Sadly, it is our very own, home grown "reality" TV show. Please pull the plug.

Scott, that's pretty obviously what we all did, having let the thread die a merciful death yesterday morning. If you hadn't jumped in 27 hours later, that's where it would have stayed. Go home.