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Letters to the Editor: Oppose the Noise Ordinance

November 12, 2009

To the Editor:

It was a nice turn out at the Town Hall meeting held on November 9th. Our voices were heard about our feelings against the noise ordinance.

However, we need everyone's support for it not to be passed. While I feel for Mr. Wagner and his unfortunate situation, this law is too subjective in its wording. As it is stated, the law would prohibit “noise that a reasonable person of normal sensitivities would not tolerate.” Who determines who is a reasonable person? What is normal sensitivities?

I enjoy my music level at 10, my wife likes 5. Will my dogs barking at 7am before we head out to work be beyond someone's tolerance? How can I shovel or snow blow my driveway before I need to get to work? I get the feeling from attending this meeting our town board officials have already made up their minds. This law is going to be passed. I urge you all to speak out against it.

Domenic Baiocco
Cornwall



Comments:

the town needs to get itself together its broken and no longer enjoyable. No one will give you a ticket for running a snowblower get with it! If you want your community to be more like Newburgh please move


posted by fran zeeblic on 11/12/09 at 4:09 PM

No matter what happens with this ordinance I believe some thought should go into what will be done when another situation like mine occurs in Cornwall....because it will. Possibly the police need to be trained in dealing with these issues and encouraged to enforce the laws that are already on the books. Maybe a volunteer task force or arbitration committee could be established to intervene in these situations and advise victims of their options. We had few resources when this happened to us and I will be first in line to assist anyone that suffers similar hardship in the future. Opposition to the ordinance is fine if that is how you feel but we need some ideas as to how to resolve these issues in the future because ignoring the fact that these problems exist is NO solution.


posted by Gerry Wagner on 11/12/09 at 4:26 PM

Fran,
If you had attended the meeting or taken the time to read the ordinance, running a snow blower at a certain hour of the day would in fact get you a ticket if someone complained about it. How dare you ask me move?


posted by d Baiocco on 11/12/09 at 4:26 PM

Mr Wagner,
Well said, as always.


posted by d Baiocco on 11/12/09 at 4:28 PM

.....and by the way, the debate to date has been very civil and respectful on both sides of the issue...lets PLEASE keep it that way. No one has to "move to Newburgh". This is ALL our town and each of us has a right to our opinion and position.
Thanks!


posted by Gerry Wagner on 11/12/09 at 4:29 PM

This whole noise ordinance is a joke. This Wagner guy should be more worried on how Cornwall looking like a ghost town. Have you seen main street and whats the deal with the empty apartment house next to CVS. This is what we all should be concered about not noise.


posted by raymond grosskopf on 11/12/09 at 9:52 PM

Wagner guy? So much for mutual respect.
As a member of the Economic Development Advisory Committee I am VERY concerned about not only Main Street but the entire Cornwall and COH business district. It may be hard for you to understand Mr. Grosskopf but some people can muti-task, (that means do more than one thing at one time). I would be glad to share my vision for economic development with you at any time if you would like to meet.....it would be my pleasure!


posted by Gerry Wagner on 11/12/09 at 10:49 PM

Wow! Sorry for this Gerry.


posted by d Baiocco on 11/13/09 at 5:02 PM

"Cornwall is attracting the wrong people"? what do you mean? people that can afford the outrageous taxes?

and I thought we were talking about the noise ordinance? The deterioration of main street and the lack of affordable housing and the dearth of activities for the (non-sports interested) kids and the lack of services (cobbler, bakery, hardware store, bookshop] within the town and village is another story. This is an important issue and it should be looked at seriously, with as much intention of preventing the intolerant as well as the intolerable. [and it's okay if someone tells you to move to Newburgh, or anywhere else for that matter, you don't have to, they're not the boss of you... (say with 9 year old nyah nyah voice)


posted by Kate Benson on 11/14/09 at 10:40 PM

rhtum said:
"I agree with Raymond Cornwall lost its attractiveness with its over building our crowded schools Cornwall is no longer looked up to as a prestigious area but an over crowded urban center."

Uh, I'm currently in Philadelphia (raised in Cornwall) and, trust me, Cornwall is no urban center. Cornwall has many important development decisions ahead of it if it does not want to wind up looking like Passaic, NJ, but every time I come back to visit I find it to still be a beautiful place and, given the level of sprawl that has occurred over the past three decades, surprisingly similar to when I was a child.


posted by Ted Warren on 11/16/09 at 4:13 PM

I don't think this is an ALL or NOTHING situation folks. It seemed to me that there were legitimate concerns with respect to the start time and perhaps the end time of the proposed ordinance, but that can be solved with amended times. If they fix that then it seems reasonable to me that having an ordinance at least set's the ground rules for anyone to follow.

Most of us have reasonable neighbors, and if we're to have a late backyard party or need to cut our lawn late or eary - then TALK to your neighbor to explain the situation and ask them to not register a complaint for this instance. No? It's not like the police are going to be going out of their way to find violators. If you're cool with your neighbors it probably won't be a problem. But for those who are caught in a situation with bad neighbors - this provides some basis for enforcement.


posted by Chuck Trella on 11/16/09 at 4:56 PM

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