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Police Blotter: October 18-20, 2007

October 23, 2007

Village of Cornwall-on-Hudson Police Department

Thursday, October 18
5:33 p.m. Police issue a summons for failure to stop at a crosswalk for a pedestrian on Hudson Street to a 21-year-old female from Brooklyn.


Friday, October 19
10:05 a.m. Police respond to DB Mart for a possible panhandler and interview a subject who says he was buying lottery tickets but wasn’t sure what numbers to play. He is advised to buy the tickets or leave the area.

Saturday, October 20
7:35 a.m. Police respond to a report of criminal mischief to a property on Hudson Street where a fence panel in the rear yard appeared to have been kicked out.

5:47 p.m. Police respond to a report of juveniles skateboarding in the roadway on Lafayette Street, preventing passage. Police observe a group of 15 juveniles skateboarding and they are advised to stay out of the roadway. One of the juveniles asks, “Are you kidding?” and he is advised that obstruction of traffic is disorderly conduct.

7:53 p.m. Police respond to a complaint of loud band music coming from a residence on Hudson Street. When the officer arrives, the music is so loud he has to yell into the mic to be heard. The property owner is advised to turn the music down because of complaints from neighbors and she replies that she isn’t going to make them stop. After a second request, the owner says that she spoke to all her neighbors and they said that the band could play until midnight. Her husband joins in and says that police were trying to suppress the kids. The property owner says that the band will stop playing music at 8:30 p.m. and after that they will play Cds with the volume down. The officer explains the noise ordinance that residents in their homes should not have to be subjected to loud noise emanating from another property. The property owner then objects to noise from a nearby garage and from motorcycles on Hudson Street. During the conversation, two more police units arrive because they could hear the extremely loud music over the radio. Subjects express disapproval of the noise ordinance and are advised to speak to the Village Board.


Comments:

Hmmm, I live out on 218 and heard the music all the way out there. So this WAS pretty loud. However, I have to agree with the homeowner's objection - what about the loud motorcycles that come roaring up and down 218 and through the village every nice weekend? Shouldn't THEY be subject to the noise ordinance as well???


posted by Chuck Trella on 10/23/07 at 11:21 PM

While the town police are prosecuting real crime (Sgt. Sinagra chasing down the truck driving felon), our village cops seem content with launching a full assault on village kids having a preciously rare opportunity to enjoy themselves -- in full compliance with the law -- by gathering to listen to some excellent music from their peers. Do these cops remember being 17? It's doubtful. And where is the tolerance from those who were so put out by the brief flurry of teenage exuberance that they felt compelled to push down with their adult thumbs with all of their taxpaying might? If village residents want respect from our young people, they need to show them respect and tolerance in kind. Didn't someone say: "It takes a village"?


posted by rgioia on 10/23/07 at 11:52 PM

The police work for the citizens of the village and if a tax payer has their comfort of peace broken they should be compelled to make a call. I would assume that not every one was contacted and maybe everyone should of been. We were fine with the notification until 9pm but I see that a midnight remark was thrown in there to the police. I am also surprised by the comments made by the homeowner to the police and I believe that if those comments were made it is a total disrespect to the police and to the village as a whole. Those remarks stated in the police blotter is NOT the responsible response of parents and we all wonder why the kids are so disrespectful. And yes we need the noise ordinance!!!!!! and maybe a tightening of it.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


posted by jcbike on 10/24/07 at 5:58 PM

Jbuescher


posted by jcbike on 10/24/07 at 5:58 PM

In spite of the correction just made to the police blotter regarding time of response by police to noise complaint, Oct. 20, there are still some inaccuracies I would like to address. First off, the officers never spoke through the microphone. I spoke with the officer in my driveway. The blotter now states that police responded to a complaint of loud band music at 7:53 pm and that the homeowners said the music would not stop until 8:30pm. Based on my recollection, I asked the officer specifically what time it was while we were discussing the justification of stopping the music and he told me it was 8:15pm. and the music did, in fact, stop at about 8:25pm - 10 minutes later! During that 10 minutes the officer and I were having a conversation about whether there was justification to stop the music when the band had only 1 or 2 more songs. He said we should lower the music and asked me how would I like it if I was forced to listen to noise I didn?t like. I respectfully answered his question by referencing the garage and motorcycles as unwanted noise imposed on the village. I then respectfully asked him to use his discretion and allow the band to finish their last song based on his observations that:
1. the kids were behaving in an overall respectful manner
2. the kids were respectfully throwing their trash in trash bins
3. the kids were respectfully drinking hot mulled cider and root beer soda
I would also add that the kids respectfully thanked the hosts for an opportunity to play and listen to music. The music ended at 8:25pm! I was told by the police that there were 2 complaints only, but apparently at least one came in as early as 6:30 when the music was still tame. It is to their credit that they showed up at 8:15 when the loudest band was on. Finally, I would like to see a stop to the generalization that all teenagers are disrespectful. Yes, some teens are disrespectful, so are some adults, but the majority of the kids that I have come into contact with in Cornwall have shown courtesy and respect. Shepherding our children through their teenage years is a daunting task. Good Luck!


posted by rgioia on 10/26/07 at 12:58 PM

I apologize for the generalization remark as all of us know there are some courteous and respectful children and teenagers including both of yours.
I was quite upset with the response in the blotter stating, "The property owner is advised to turn the music down because of complaints from neighbors and she replies that she isn?t going to make them stop. After a second request, the owner says that she spoke to all her neighbors and they said that the band could play until midnight."
This certainly gave the impression that the homeowner did not share concern with the complaining resident(s) (the taxpaying residents with their adult thumbs). I hope you understand my negative reaction to this report.
JBuescher


posted by jcbike on 10/26/07 at 8:52 PM

I was enjoying the music all afternoon. Around 7:30 I was heading over to compliment the kids on their music. There were already two cruisers there. I had no difficulty hearing what was being said and I wondered if the officer were really that deaf or if he was just affecting an inability to hear to try to make a point. At that point two more cruisers pulled up and I jokingly asked the Town cop, Are you the back-up? One of the village officers snapped at him, Don't answer that!! What was this - a SWAT mission against that unruly bunch of root beer drinking 10-85s?? The majority of the people in the neighborhood had NO problem with the music. But because two people call up does everything have to be shut down? The village was already informed that the bands would stop at 9 pm. The officers are allowed to use their own discretion in such situations, why not talk to the complainer and request a bit of tolerance for a one time event that was winding down anyhow? Remember, we're the town that likes our children to celebrate their achievements.


posted by kate benson on 10/26/07 at 11:46 PM

I find it interesting that the homeowners version and the police blotter version differ. While it is true that the neighborhood was informed about the upcoming music, I admit to being surprised at just how loud is was. I believe part of the problem is that a residential area is probably not the best spot for an event such as this. I agree with the pp who suggested a community center or other appropriate setting. As a relative newcomer to this area, I am disheartened by the intolerance I see on both sides of most issues facing this village. A little more respect on both sides would certainly not hurt in addressing the generally minor problems that this community faces.


posted by sbeard on 10/27/07 at 9:05 AM

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